I grabbed my first copy from the book A Course in Miracles circa 2005. I’d heard it referenced by many people from the spiritual teachers I had been into during the time and figured I should probably check it out. One of my first memories of reading this course was sitting on a healthcare facility bed while looking forward to x-rays on my small ankle coming from a skateboarding accident. Going reading the introduction, which said, “Nothing real may be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.” Sounds good right? Well I’d be completely full of shit if I said I’d some revelation, or really even any clue as to what that meant. It sounded and also esoteric however, so I continue reading. After a couple of weeks, I put the Course aside mainly because it was the same to reading a magazine written in Chinese. I happily went back to reading my books by Ram Dass and Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche….At least I could understand many of them, or at best make believe when talking regarding the subject.

Fast-forward to 2007. I used to be in a local library once i discovered an audio book called Strategies of the Immortal: Advanced Teachings coming from a Course in Miracles. I’d again be lying only said I had created any revelation because of this audio book, not because its content wasn’t sufficient, but because I downloaded it to my computer rather than listened to it. Again, I returned to reading my others spiritual texts, at this point I’d advanced for the like of Ken Wilber & Sri Ramana Maharshi, definitely much harder to make believe you know what these folks were saying in conversation, on the other hand tried.

Twelve months later, in 2008, for reasons unknown, I looked at my copy of the Course in Miracles generating the resolution i was going to finally make out the print, and not just make out the print, but understand it! Well, I could say that on this occasion I tied to it, generally. I remembered the audio book I’d ripped to my library the previous year, i really uploaded it to my trusty iPod and commenced listening to it on various commutes. Tricks of the Immortal actually broke the program down inside a comprehensive, yet user-friendly method that I really could work with.

Most way from the mp3 audio book I realized I did not know who I was listening too (damn bootlegged copies), therefore i went back to the computer and discovered out it was Gary Renard. That name really meant not me back then, nor did one of the other Course teachers like Kenneth Wapnick or Marianne Williamson, because not really a particularly sought after spiritual path. Not since it is a rigid discipline, or there is certainly dogma that come with it. If anything, it does not take the complete opposite of that.

After completing Gary’s audio book, I moved on towards the initially his two books provided by Hay House, titled The Disappearance in the Universe. I picked up DU (as it is known by it’s readers) and was literally engulfed from the time I started. Not simply that always break up the program in a manner that I can understand, it talked about many contemporary issues, and just how they may be seen differently over the Course. I finished DU in approximately every week and found a duplicate of Your Immortal Reality.

Your Immortal Reality really solidified my faith in Gary’s teachings as when i finished it, I had absolutely no problem reading and understanding A training course in Miracles. That isn’t to convey I haven’t got to sit with, and contemplate most of its passages every once in awhile, but without Gary’s work, my copy of A Course in Miracles would be getting dusty around the bookshelf. Okay so what inside the hell is often a Course in Miracles? Read on to see! (*Note- I would like to reiterate that even though Training in Miracles is my very own, personal spiritual path, I, under no circumstances, wish to promote, or endorse it more than some other spiritual tradition, a few of which happen to be wonderful catalysts on my spiritual path, and that i still are from today.)

The Gary Renard Interview PT I of II

TIS: How about we just get strait into it…According to A training course In Miracles (often known as ACIM), interviews us are performing right now is definitely an illusion. Can you explain that for the people not really acquainted with ACIM’s teaching?

GR: Sure. People can think about the universe of energy and space like a projection. Individuals who have read my books understand that I prefer to visit the movies, and an analogy I love to make is this, I go into the theatre and I want it to be real. The lights go down and attention is diverted for the screen. While i start to pinpoint the screen, I may get sucked to the story, possibly becoming emotional, or perhaps actually talking to the screen. And so i forget there’s certainly not anything happening there, that it is trick, a fantasy, a sleight of hand. The American Indians use to convey, “behold, the truly amazing mystery”. Well this course says “behold, the truly great mystery”, just about all says “behold, the truly amazing projection”. It’s rather a projection from a projector, which can be hidden. When you’re in the movie theater, you just aren’t supposed to take into account the projector, you’re meant to forget about it and concentrate on screen, that is certainly what individuals are going to do here too. They’re centering on the screen that we call life, and they also think it’s reality, speculate the Hindu’s, Buddhist’s & ACIM says, that it is a fantasy. This course further refines that concept into this being ideal that we’ll awaken from, and it is that awakening that is the equivalent of enlightenment. It’s what Buddha meant when he said “I am awake”. He previously actually awoken make up the entire dream of time and space.

Let’s quickly say I’m from the cinema and that i desire to change what’s on-screen, not in a temporary way, but permanently. A method where I will obviously have something happen that will work. Only wished to change the thing that was with that screen, it wouldn’t do me a lot of good to go up and waste time from it. I might need to understand that there is a projector that is hidden from the back, that i am not supposed to think of that. Well, if I genuinely wish to change what’s on the watch’s screen inside a permanent way, then not merely would I need to keep in mind that you will find there’s projector, I might must also believe it is, and modify what’s within it.

As an alternative if I were to accomplish that, I would be managing the source, instead of the effect. I’d personally be coming from a position of power because I’d be doing something could work permanently rather than only temporarily. It might give me real power because I could be coping with the cause, rather than the effects, that is just what the Course teaches, that is that it’s a course in cause, and never effect. It also says “seek to not alter the world, seek rather to change your mind regarding the world”. That’s because when you go to your head, you will where the projector is hidden, where this universe of energy and space is coming from. What we’re seeing is on its way coming from a projector that is certainly actually hidden within the unconscious mind. I am not just talking about an individual unconscious mind, which some people call the subconscious. I’m talking about the unconscious mind many of us share. There’s only certainly one of us sharing this unconscious mind which is the location where the universe of your energy and space is originating from.

So consider it as being as being a movie that you’re watching. The program says you’re revealing mentally whatever has already gone by. So it is already over so far as the Course can be involved, and we’re just watching it. The world thinks however, that we’re actually within it, and in what way out, is usually to change what’s inside the mind in line with the Course. It’s really a different type of forgiveness than a lot of people take into consideration however, which we’ll get into. Just what exactly that does, could it be undoes this thing that I’ll call the “ego”. You can imagine the ego being the idea of separation, the thought that we’ve adopted this individual identity as well as existence that is somehow apart from its source.

Our experience now, is always that we’re separate, which the body personifies. We presume like we’re in bodies, and outside of other individuals, along with our source, which is God. So that you can suppose the ego because the concept of separation. Exactly what the Course along with other great spiritual teachings do is that they undo the ego. That’s something conditioned to me by my teachers from the Disappearance with the Universe plus your Immortal Reality. They educated me in the Course as well as what it indicates, using numerous quotations from it to indicate how it’s actually saying. They did it in a way that we may go back and truly understand it’s teaching. In their second visit, my teachers told me that I would buy my first copy from the Course, i really did, plus it made no sense in my opinion whatsoever. It might also happen to be developed in an international language. After seven or eight visits from them however, I can turn back and read the program, plus it actually made sense. After seeing that, I was thinking there is something there, and that it would certainly work.

So although it took quite a while for the book to be ready, I bound to it. It had been a labor passion. I never knew Whether it would be published or not, or exactly what the reaction can be. It’s since exercised well though. One thing my teachers educated me was that salvation, as the Course says, is undoing. The reason which is a brilliant approach is because if you decide to undo the ego, the false you, if you could completely make it happen job, then eventually the real you would be all that’s left. The genuine you has nothing related to the universe of energy and space. The real you ‘s what this course would call spirit, nevertheless the Course uses words differently than it’s almost common knowledge them. When the Course says “spirit”, it isn’t referring to a concept of individuality. Most people consider spirit as the equal of the soul. There is a soul and die, and there is it that goes on as soon as you, which looks suspiciously such as the body you only left. Well that’s still a concept of individuality and separation.

When ACIM uses the term “spirit”, it isn’t referring to something which belongs to it, it’s talking about something is perhaps same as its source, which is God. It’s discussing something you may feel, this also experience is perhaps identical to being God. The truth is, the program describes it the attention of perfect oneness, so it’s an experience you can have, even while you look like here walking on in a body. The quickest method to get that experience is to undo the ego, which leaves you inside a condition of spirit. At some time, the program claims that the mind will be the activating agent of spirit. So it will be by selecting (which is where forgiveness also comes in) how you think of people. We can easily decide to obtain them as being separate bodies, and if we do that, that’s how we’ll experience ourselves. If we think of them to beyond their own health though, then we’re doing what the Course suggests, that’s look past the veil, and overlooking one’s body. Eventually, we’ll arrive at experience our self to be spirit, but that is provided that you consider them to be nothing less than God, but rather, to be the whole thing.

There isn’t one speck of knowledge within the universe of time and space your unconscious mind is not aware of. It knows everything. It might require access because it is projecting the universe of energy and space, so it must have got all of the information that is certainly contained inside. Now, one important thing your unconscious mind knows, is that there exists only certainly one of us. We feel we’ve six billion individuals, with millions of decisions from which to choose, and trillions of objects within the universe of your time and space. The reality is though, regardless of how many times you divide and subdivide, there’s really only one among us that thinks it’s here. There’s only this one ego that thinks it’s separated itself looking at the source and taken on this personal identity and individual existence. There’s one ego that thinks it’s here, and you’re simply it, it’s not someone else, there’s not anyone else.

Any devices is the thing that the Hindu’s call the world of multiplicity. It’s literally a sleight of hand, an illusion. So were tricked with this thing, I’m calling the ego, since there is something and we don’t be familiar with it. The ego likes this concept of separation. It really wants to keep it going, as it feels important & special. It’s like Jesus’ prodigal son story- he leaves his fathers house, going off on his own as they thinks he is able to fare better, which happens to be an oversight. All that he finds is scarcity, and you can’t have scarcity in heaven because everything you have can be an understanding perfect oneness, i mentioned earlier. Inside the condition of perfect oneness, you might have everything, so you can’t have scarcity when you have the whole thing. You also can’t have death when you’ve got perfect oneness. It’ only if you have the split from that perfect oneness that you build opposites and the chance for an opposite to life, that is death, and also the chance for a contrary to abundance, that’s scarcity.

So everything you’re seeing is founded on duality. This is exactly why it says inside the book of Genesis, you will not eat from your tree of knowledge of proper and evil, for the entire day consume of computer, you shall die. Well good and evil are opposites, and once you have opposites, you could have death. You can not have death high no opposites though, which explains why ACIM says correct in it’s introduction, the alternative of love is fear, but what is all encompassing, that’s obviously God, can have no opposite. So what we want to do is return to an area its keep is not any such thing as opposites, and then there isn’t any death or scarcity. This is the notion of going home that Jesus is intending to show inside the prodigal son story. Eventually the prodigal son realized he made a mistake, that is that he had left, understanding that normally the one decision he had to make was to go home, which he did. You notice also in that story, the prodigal son provides extensive strange ideas about himself. He thinks he’s guilty, and contains ideas that he’s committed a sin against his father, and is not worthy to get called God’s on. So he admits that, well maybe easily leave I could start at the bottom and work my way up as one of His servants and get back in his good graces. What the prodigal son doesn’t understand is that God doesn’t share any sexual ideas about him.

Both Bible and ACIM say God is ideal love, so if perfect love actually is perfect love, then all of that God would know how you can do is love. If he knew the best way to be angry, wrathful or judgmental, it may not be perfect love. What ACIM does is give us a God that actually is ideal love and all that God wants is good for us to come home. All the other ideas, as the Course puts it, would be the own nightmare and don’t exist. So in this sense, it is actually a fantasy of guilt and separation that we are having. The concept would be to undo that through the technique of forgiveness in places you see people as being this perfect spirit, since your unconscious mind knows everything, and one of the things it knows is the fact that there is really one among us. So no matter what you think of another individual, it’s not visiting them, it will you. Your unconscious mind will interpret that it is a message of your stuff, to you, and about you, because it knows that there is certainly only one of us.

You will find there’s essential law of the mind that’s articulated within a Course In Miracles which is simple, but true. It says, “As the truth is him, you will observe yourself”, so whatever you’re interested in someone else is really just planning to you. It will also figure out how you feel about yourself and eventually if you agree you’re. It is possible to believe you are a body understanding that you’re separate, or believe that you’re this perfect spirit which is exactly the same as God. In accordance with the Course, mind is the activating agent of spirit which is tips on how to actually improve your connection with life, from a condition of depression with a condition of happiness. You gradually make room towards the connection with being spirit.

The ironic thing is you can still need your daily life. You won’t need to give anything up, you’ll still live an average life and also have a good time. In the event you meet someone and just fall in love, and even get wed, do it now. I merely get wed myself recently. Whatever is front of one’s face will probably be for just one of two purposes. You can either judge it, or forgive it. There will be instances when you don’t have to forgive anything. The target of ACIM is not on forgiving romantic a walks on the beach or music or art. The focus with the Course is on forgiving the negative emotions that can up.

The Course also says that anger is not justified. It doesn’t state that you may never get angry, I can just about promise that you will. It will point out that it is rarely justified and the sooner which you do not forget that, the less you’ll suffer. Why anger is never justified is really because what you’re seeing is a projection that is certainly originating from you. You’re the one that got up and set those individuals there, it suited you them to be there. That may seem difficult to believe to start with, but that’s what exactly it suited you. The guilt you felt over separating from God is viewed as being outside you, instead of inside you. Which is the whole intent behind projection. A psychologist would tell you that whatever is denied, must be projected. Well what we’re taking a look at inside the universe of your energy and space is really something that is symbolic of separation, but it is according to a massive metaphysical denial prior to time began, just before what was the large Bang inside the universe of your energy and space.

There are these items that certain ego felt very guilty about, and exactly how that that ego thought it could possibly do away with that guilt ended up being deny it. Once it was denied, it absolutely was projected outwards and that is in which the projection is arriving from. The best way residence is to undo the projection, which again is why the program says that salvation is undoing. So by undoing it, eventually that experience of separation disappears. You come back on the experience with perfect oneness and you are enlightened, and because the Course puts it, enough time arrive when you find yourself scheduled to check out of here. So you’ll lay one’s body aside for your final time, and also, since there is no ego, there isn’t any reason behind you to keep coming back. So that perfect oneness with God becomes a prominent experience for you personally, if you lay one’s body aside for your final some time to simply go back home. Then your connection with perfect oneness becomes your permanent reality.

TIS: Phew. I’ve read your books, and heard your mp3 audio books numerous times, that is certainly still a great deal to consume. There’s a deep truth that resonates personally though as you speak however.

GR: Yeah, the Course says a great deal, but you’ll find that everything the Course says, all fits together, form of being a hologram.

TIS: Right.

GR: You might claim that the Course provides you with two complete and mutually exclusive thought systems. You will find the thought system from the Holy Spirit, which can be all about love and forgives, and becoming love yourself within your experience, and exactly how you appear at others, that may naturally result in you treating others with love. Then you need the ego thought system, which can be about judgment and condemnation. The Course says you’ll be able to only do 1 of 2 things. It says, “He who’d not forgive, must judge, for he has to justify his failure to forgive”. So if you’re not likely to forgive someone, then you need to produce up a complete story about why they’re not worthy of your forgiveness, plus it would take a shorter period just to forgive them.

One of the other items I really like about the Course is it actually will give you a way home, a way out of this mess. I’m not saying you mustn’t enjoy it while you are here, it is just that this person is temporary, it certainly can’t last. People think it is extremely valuable, but how valuable can something be if it is temporary and it’s not gonna last? A very important thing quite a few for would be to learn and communicate, and share the truth with others. Absolutely suit, how’s it going planning to utilize the time you are here. A few times the program asks the gender chart for, regarding the pain you are seeing… what is it for? Well, it’s for forgiveness because by forgiving, you undo the ego plus your experience will change, and it’s really a better experience. It is actually easier to be considered a spirit than the usual body. It’s safer to be considered a butterfly compared to a caterpillar, it is a less restricted life form plus a good quality of life. It’s actually a win-win situation.

You’ll probably still have your life and pretend that you are a doctor, or perhaps a racecar driver, or do what I truly do, and pretend you are a spiritual teacher and go around the globe and talk to people. My teachers Arten and Pursah explained it doesn’t matter a few things i do, my real job is forgiveness and any devices is only a cover job. The forgiveness opportunities should come up for those, plus they appear in a number of forms. The program claims that the ideal lesson is definitely before you, though this can be seldom recognized. So it’s no mystery that which you are meant to forgive, that is whatever is appropriate in front of your face. Those are the lessons that this Holy Spirit wants you to learn, and forgive.

It’s not always fun since this is a world of duality. You are going to have both fun times and bad if you are here. There isn’t any getting away from that as this is a world of opposites. So there will probably be times where you need to forgive, and instances when you may not, as you’re having a good time which enable it to just “celebrate” since the Course says. ACIM is a happy way of spirituality. It talks about the happy dream and as a happy learner. Among the ten characteristics of a teacher of God is joy. So this ‘s no suffering, morose type of spirituality. It’s not a good religion. ACIM is a self-study course. It’s done between you and the Holy Spirit or else you and Jesus, or whatever you want to think of it as. Jesus is the teacher within the Course. He speaks in first person and it’s really clear that it was distributed by him. Making this a pleasant type of spirituality, and it’s changing how people consider the historical Jesus.

I’m happy to notice that nowadays that when you are going into Unity Churches, otherwise you come over to my place, there’s a drawings and paintings of Jesus, and he’s laughing and smiling, and that is the way in which he was. He wasn’t some suffering, unhappy guy. He had a feeling of humor anf the husband was married to Mary Magdalene. He’d normal relationships, and friends plus they partied after they wanted too. They’d visit a wedding celebration that will last 3 weeks because which is the way things were in those days. I believe you have a better view of what life was like in the period Jesus lived by reading the previous Testament, more than you do reading the newest Testament because that is what it was like. You read items like Solomon and it’s pretty racy stuff. There are many sexual things mentioned. The stuff about being puritans and goody two shoes came after Jesus. It didn’t have almost anything to employ what life was like as they was running around. All of that was made up from the church given that they wanted comprise a faith and they also did.

The message of Jesus got completely lost and converted into its opposite, which is a message of suffering and sacrifice, and that is not what he concerned in any respect. He concerned eliminate suffering and sacrifice. Likely the best illustration would be the fact he couldn’t feel any pain following his life. As ACIM puts it, the guiltless mind cannot suffer, and Jesus’ mind ended up completely healed from the Holy Spirit, so he previously no guilt in their mind, which resulted in he couldn’t suffer, which also resulted in he couldn’t feel any pain. And this whole idea that somehow he suffered and sacrificed himself for your sins is not related to him. It’s actually a composed theology from the apostle Paul. In fact, it’s Paul’s theology, which is the foundation Christianity. It is not based on the teachings of Jesus.

So here you do have a Jesus who could forgive anybody, even though they were killing him, but nowadays you have the “Christians” who can’t forgive people who have done absolutely nothing to them? You will find there’s contradiction here. It is a convoluted version of Jesus. I think one reason my books, and ACIM did so well, and i think continually, since the Course will be around to get a thousand years, is because at the conclusion of your day it feels right. It’s really a complete thought system. All this fits together and is depending on love and forgiveness.

In case you take a look at a number of the old Greek texts, from the beginning of Christianity, they accustomed to say (concerning the early Christians), “you’ll know them by their love”. The original concept of the term “repent” in Greek is around a difference of mind. It isn’t about taking care of your act on the degree of the planet. It is on the level of your brain and about a difference of mind. That was the original idea, given that they ended up getting a few of what Jesus was saying during the time. ACIM is done with the amount of your head, because which is the level of cause, and also the world is only the effect. I’m not proclaiming that you simply can’t get it, and get it, but after the morning it’s a temporary experience.

It’s what are the Buddhist’s call impermanence, also, since it’s impermanent and temporary, you cannot find any permanent satisfaction or happiness there. It’s really easy to find permanent happiness in changing your characteristic look with the world though, which again is why the program says, “seek never to customize the world, seek rather to change your mind about the world”. And when you accomplish you may be working with the amount of cause instead of the effect, that is very important.

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