I found my first copy with the book A program in Miracles circa 2005. I’d heard it referenced by many people in the spiritual teachers I became into at the time and figured I would probably take a look. Certainly one of my first memories of reading the program was looking at a healthcare facility bed while looking forward to x-rays on my small ankle coming from a skateboarding accident. I recall reading the introduction, which said, “Nothing real could be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.” Sounds good right? Well I’d be completely brimming with shit only said I had some revelation, or really even any clue to what that meant. It sounded neat and esoteric however, therefore i keep reading. After a couple of weeks, I position the Course aside mainly because it was very same to reading a novel coded in Chinese. I happily went back to reading my books by Ram Dass and Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche….At the very least I could understand some of them, or at least pretend to when talking on them.

Fast-forward to 2007. I was in the local library while i discovered a solid book called Tricks of the Immortal: Advanced Teachings from your Course in Miracles. I’d again be lying only said I had any revelation from this audio book, not because its content wasn’t sufficient, speculate I downloaded it to my computer rather than paid attention to it. Again, I went back to reading my others spiritual texts, at this time I’d advanced for the like of Ken Wilber & Sri Ramana Maharshi, definitely much harder to make believe you determine what these were saying in conversation, however i tried.

One year later, in 2008, for reasons unknown, I viewed my copy of an Course in Miracles making the resolution which i was going to finally read it, and not only see clearly, but be aware of it! Well, I could say that this time I stuck with it, generally. I remembered the audiobook I’d ripped to my library the prior year, and so i uploaded it to my trusty iPod and began hearing it on various commutes. Strategies of the Immortal actually broke this course down in the comprehensive, yet user-friendly method in which I can help.

About 50 % way over the mp3 audio book I spotted I did not be aware of who I had been listening too (damn bootlegged copies), therefore i returned to the computer and found out it absolutely was Gary Renard. That name really meant nothing to me during the time, nor did any of the other Course teachers like Kenneth Wapnick or Marianne Williamson, since this is not really a particularly desired spiritual path. Not because it’s a strict discipline, or there is dogma attached with it. If anything, it’s the complete opposite of that.

After completing Gary’s audiobook, I moved on towards the to begin his two books provided by Hay House, titled The Disappearance with the Universe. I found DU (because it is also known as by it’s readers) and it was literally engulfed from the moment I started. Not only did it always breakdown this course in a way that I can understand, but it also brought up many contemporary issues, and how they might be seen differently over the Course. I finished DU in about every week and picked up a reproduction of one’s Immortal Reality.

Your Immortal Reality really solidified my faith in Gary’s teachings as once i finished it, I’d virtually no problem reading and understanding A training course in Miracles. It’s not to express I haven’t got by sitting with, and contemplate lots of its passages every so often, but without Gary’s work, my copy of A Course in Miracles would be getting dusty around the bookshelf. Now what exactly inside the hell is really a Course in Miracles? Read on to see! (*Note- I must reiterate that although A program in Miracles is my own, personal spiritual path, I, certainly not, need to promote, or endorse it a lot more than every other spiritual tradition, most of which happen to be wonderful catalysts on my own spiritual path, and that i still tap into even today.)

The Gary Renard Interview PT I of II

TIS: So let’s just get strait into it…According to A training course In Miracles (also known as ACIM), the interview us are going to do right this moment is surely an illusion. Do you understand why for anyone unaware of ACIM’s teaching?

GR: Sure. People can think about the universe of energy and space being a projection. Individuals who have read my books are aware that I prefer to navigate to the movies, and an analogy I like to make are these claims, I am going into the theatre and I wish it to be real. The lights drop and attention is diverted on the screen. While i learn to concentrate on the screen, I could get sucked in the story, possibly becoming emotional, or even talking to the screen. So I forget that there’s not really anything happening there, that it is a trick, a fantasy, a sleight of hand. The American Indians use to state, “behold, the truly amazing mystery”. Well this course says “behold, the fantastic mystery”, it says “behold, the great projection”. This is a projection from a projector, that’s hidden. When you find yourself in a movie theatre, you aren’t supposed to think about the projector, you’re likely to forget about it and concentrate on-screen, and that’s exactly who do here too. They’re concentrating on the screen that people call life, plus they think it’s reality, speculate the Hindu’s, Buddhist’s & ACIM says, is in reality a fantasy. The program further refines that concept into this being ideal that we’ll awaken from, and it’s that awakening that is the same in principle as enlightenment. It’s what Buddha meant as he said “I am awake”. He’d actually awoken form the entire desire time and space.

How about we say I’m from the theatre i want to change what’s on-screen, not within a temporary way, but permanently. A method where I could genuinely have something happen that might work. Only planned to change that which was on that screen, it would not do me an excessive amount of good to go up and waste time from it. I’d personally must remember that there exists a projector which can be hidden from the back, that we are not meant to think about that. Well, if I really want to change what’s on the screen within a permanent way, then not simply would I must remember that there’s a projector, I’d must also believe it is, and alter what’s within it.

Now if I could accomplish that, I would be working with the main cause, rather than the effect. I might be from a position of power because I’d be doing regular something that will work permanently rather than only temporarily. It will deliver real power because I can be dealing with the cause, and not the effects, which is just what the Course teaches, which is that it is a course in cause, and not effect. Additionally, it says “seek to not customize the world, seek rather to change your mind regarding the world”. Like when you go to the mind, you’ll where the projector is hidden, where this universe of your energy and space is on its way from. What we’re seeing is coming from the projector which is actually hidden within the unconscious mind. I am not just speaking about a person unconscious mind, which some individuals call the subconscious. I’m discussing the unconscious mind most of us share. There’s really only one of us sharing this unconscious mind and that is where the universe of your time and space is arriving from.

So think of it as being just like a movie that you are watching. The Course says you’re revealing mentally that which has recently gone by. So it’s already over so far as the program is involved, and we’re just watching it. We feel however, that we are actually inside, and how out, is always to change what’s inside the mind based on the Course. It’s actually a different kind of forgiveness than most people consider however, which we’ll enter into. Precisely what that does, is it undoes this thing that I’ll call the “ego”. You can think of the ego being the notion of separation, the concept that we’ve taken on they identity and existence that’s somehow outside of its source.

Our experience now, is we’re separate, that the body personifies. We presume like we’re in bodies, and separate from other folks, as well as our source, which is God. So you can suppose the ego since the concept of separation. Just what the Course and also other great spiritual teachings do is because undo the ego. That’s one of the things conditioned to me by my teachers from the Disappearance from the Universe plus your Immortal Reality. They educated me this course and what it implies, using countless quotations from it to demonstrate how it’s actually saying. They that in a way that we may back and truly understand it’s teaching. On their second visit, my teachers informed me i would buy my first copy from the Course, therefore i did, and it made no sense in my opinion whatsoever. It might as well happen to be written in an international language. After seven or eight visits from their store however, I can return and focus the program, plus it actually made sense. After seeing that, I believed there is something there, which would definitely work.

So though it took a long time for the book to become ready, I stuck with it. It was a labor passion. I never knew If it can be published or otherwise, or just what the reaction could be. It’s since worked out adequately though. Finished . my teachers trained me in was that salvation, as the Course says, is undoing. The reason that’s a brilliant approach is because should you undo the ego, which is the false you, in the event you could completely make it happen job, then eventually the genuine you would be all that’s left. The true you has nothing to do with the universe of your time and space. The genuine you is exactly what this course would call spirit, however the Course uses words differently than it’s almost common knowledge them. If the Course says “spirit”, it is not speaking about an idea of individuality. Most of the people consider spirit as the equivalent of the soul. You have a soul and die, as there are this thing which goes on when you, which looks suspiciously much like the body you only left. Well that’s still a concept of individuality and separation.

When ACIM uses the term “spirit”, it is not talking about a thing that belongs to it, it’s talking about something which is the just like its source, which is God. It’s speaking about something you may suffer, and this experience is the comparable to being God. The truth is, this course describes it as the notice of perfect oneness, so it is an experience you can have, while you look like here running around in the body. The easiest strategy to get that experience is always to undo the ego, which leaves you in a condition of spirit. At one point, the Course claims that mental performance may be the activating agent of spirit. So it is by selecting (which is where forgiveness also comes in) how we think about people. We could choose to obtain them to separate bodies, if carry out that, that’s how we’ll experience ourselves. Whenever we imagine them to beyond their bodies though, then we’re doing what the Course suggests, that’s go beyond the veil, and overlooking one’s body. Eventually, we’ll arrived at experience our self as being spirit, but that is only if you imagine them being nothing more than God, but, being everything.

There is not one speck of info from the universe of your energy and space that the unconscious thoughts are not aware of. It genuinely knows everything. It would require access because it’s projecting the universe of your energy and space, so it would have to have got all in the information that’s contained within it. Now, one thing your unconscious mind knows, is always that there’s only one of us. We think that we have six billion people, with millions of decisions from which to choose, and trillions of objects from the universe of energy and space. The reality is though, no matter how many times you divide and subdivide, there’s only one among us that thinks it’s here. There’s just this one ego that thinks it’s separated itself from the source introduced about this personal identity and individual existence. There’s only one ego that thinks it’s here, and you are it, it isn’t really somebody else, there is not anybody else.

Any devices ‘s what the Hindu’s call the field of multiplicity. It’s literally a sleight of hand, a fantasy. So we’re tricked from this thing, I’m calling the ego, as there is something we do not learn about it. The ego likes this idea of separation. It wants to keep it up, since it feels important & special. It’s like Jesus’ prodigal son story- he leaves his fathers house, sounding on his own as they thinks he is able to do better, which turns out to be a mistake. All of that he finds is scarcity, and also you can’t have scarcity in heaven because everything you have is definitely an understanding of perfect oneness, which I mentioned earlier. Within the condition of perfect oneness, you’ve everything, and you also can’t have scarcity in case you have all of it. Additionally you can’t have death when you’ve got perfect oneness. It’ only if you will find the split from that perfect oneness that you setup opposites as well as the possibility of another to life, that’s death, and also the potential for a contrary to abundance, that is scarcity.

So everything you’re seeing is founded on duality. This is why it says from the book of Genesis, you will not eat from your tree of data of good and evil, during the day you take in from it, you will die. Well good and evil are opposites, once you have opposites, you’ll have death. You can not have death where there no opposites though, which is why ACIM says correct in it’s introduction, the contrary of affection is fear, what ‘s all encompassing, which is obviously God, may have no opposite. What exactly you want to do is go back to a location where there isn’t such thing as opposites, and then there isn’t any death or scarcity. This is the idea of going home that Jesus is wanting to show inside the prodigal son story. Eventually the prodigal son realized he designed a mistake, that’s that they had left, and that normally the one decision he had to make ended up being go back home, that he did. You notice and in that story, the prodigal son provides extensive strange ideas about himself. He thinks he’s guilty, and has ideas that he’s committed a sin against his father, and is not worthy being called God’s on. So he states, well maybe only return home I’m able to start at the end and work my in place as one of His servants and get into his good graces. What are the prodigal son doesn’t understand is that God doesn’t share any of those ideas about him.

Both the Bible and ACIM say God is ideal love, so if perfect love is really perfect love, then all that God know the best way to do is love. If he knew the best way to be angry, wrathful or judgmental, that may not be perfect love. What ACIM does is give us a God that actually is good love and all that God wants is made for us in the future home. All the other ideas, since the Course puts it, would be the own nightmare , nor exist. So in this sense, it truly is a dream of guilt and separation that we are having. The idea is to undo that over the process of forgiveness in places you see people being this perfect spirit, as your unconscious mind knows everything, then one of the things it knows is there in fact is just one of us. So it doesn’t matter what you see another individual, it’s not going out to them, it is going to you. Your unconscious mind will interpret that it is message within you, for your requirements, leading to you, as it is aware that there exists really only among us.

You will find there’s important law with the mind that is articulated inside a Course In Miracles that is simple, but true. It says, “As the thing is him, you will notice yourself”, so whatever you’re interested in somebody else is absolutely just likely to you. It will likewise determine how you really feel about yourself and finally what you believe you’re. You’ll be able to think that you might be a body which you’re separate, additionally, you can believe you’re this perfect spirit which can be identical to God. According to the Course, mind is the activating agent of spirit which is the best way to actually make positive changes to example of life, from the condition of depression into a condition of happiness. You gradually move over towards the example of being spirit.

The ironic thing is that you could have your life. You won’t need to give anything up, you will still live an ordinary life and also have a great time. Should you meet someone and just fall in love, and wish to get married, do it now. I merely marry myself a year ago. Whatever is in front of your respective face will be first of two purposes. You may either judge it, or forgive it. There will be instances when you won’t need to forgive anything. The main focus of ACIM is not on forgiving romantic a uses the beach or music or art. The focus of the Course is on forgiving the negative emotions that can up.

The program also states that anger isn’t justified. This doesn’t happen point out that you might never get angry, I’m able to just about guarantee you that you will. It lets you do claim that it is rarely justified along with the sooner which you keep in mind that, the less you’ll suffer. Why anger isn’t justified is because that which you are seeing is a projection that’s via you. You are one that got up and hang those people there, it suited you these phones exist. That may seem hard to believe initially, that’s exactly what you wished. The guilt you felt over separating from God is seen as being outside of you, rather than in the human body. Which is the whole reason for projection. A psychologist would tell you that whatever is denied, must be projected. Well what we’re investigating in the universe of your time and space is actually something is synonymous with separation, but it’s according to a massive metaphysical denial just before time began, just before what was the Big Bang inside the universe of time and space.

There have been these items that particular ego felt very guilty about, and the way that that ego thought it could possibly eliminate that guilt was to deny it. Once it turned out denied, it absolutely was projected outwards and that’s the place that the projection is on its way from. Just how property is to undo the projection, which again is why the Course claims that salvation is undoing. So by undoing it, eventually that experience of separation disappears. You come back towards the experience of perfect oneness and then you are enlightened, and because the Course puts it, enough time should come when you are scheduled to see of here. So you’ll lay the body aside to the final time, and since there is absolutely no ego, there is absolutely no basis for one to revisit. To ensure that perfect oneness with God gets a prominent experience for you personally, whenever you lay one’s body aside for the final some time and simply go back home. Then the connection with perfect oneness becomes your permanent reality.

TIS: Phew. I’ve read your books, and paid attention to your mp3 audiobooks numerous times, and that’s still much to take in. There exists a deep truth that resonates for me personally though because you speak however.

GR: Yeah, the program says a whole lot, but you’ll notice that everything the program says, all fits together, type of like a hologram.

TIS: Right.

GR: You may claim that the Course offers you two complete and mutually exclusive thought systems. You have the thought system of the Holy Spirit, which can be about love and forgives, and also becoming love yourself inside your experience, and how you gaze at others, that may naturally lead to you treating others with love. Then you have the ego thought system, that’s information on judgment and condemnation. The program says it is possible to only do one of two things. It says, “He who would not forgive, must judge, for he has to justify his failure to forgive”. So if you are not planning to forgive someone, then you have to generate up a complete story about why they are not worthy of your forgiveness, and yes it would take less time simply to forgive them.

Among the other items I love in regards to the Course would it be actually gives you an easy method home, an easy method because of this mess. That’s not me saying you shouldn’t have fun here as long as you’re here, it is just the person is temporary, it certainly can’t last. People think it is quite valuable, but wait, how valuable can something be if it is temporary and not gonna last? A good thing technology-not only for is always to learn and communicate, and share the truth with others. Now you ask, how are you planning to use the time that you’re here. A few times this course asks the facts for, regarding that which you are seeing… what exactly is it for? Well, it’s for forgiveness because by forgiving, you undo the ego as well as your experience changes, and it’s really an improved experience. It really is safer to be a spirit than the usual body. It’s preferable to be described as a butterfly when compared to a caterpillar, it is a less restricted life form along with a good quality of life. It could be a win-win situation.

You may still have your life and pretend that you’re a doctor, or possibly a racecar driver, or do what I actually do, and pretend you’re spiritual teacher and go around the globe and speak to people. My teachers Arten and Pursah told me that no matter things i do, my real job is forgiveness and the rest is only a cover job. The forgiveness opportunities can come up for individuals, and they are available in many different forms. This course claims that the right lesson is obviously before you, though this can be seldom recognized. So it will be no mystery what you’re likely to forgive, that’s whatever is right before your face. Those are the lessons that the Holy Spirit wants one to learn, and forgive.

It isn’t really always fun as this is an enormous amount of duality. You’ll have both fun times and bad as long as you’re here. There is not any stepping out of that as this is an enormous amount of opposites. There is going to be times where you’ll have to forgive, and occasions when you may not, when you are enjoying yourself and will just “celebrate” because Course says. ACIM is often a happy kind of spirituality. It references the happy dream and like a happy learner. One of the ten characteristics of an teacher of God is joy. So this is not a suffering, morose type of spirituality. It is not a good religion. ACIM is really a self-study course. It’s done between you and the Holy Spirit otherwise you and Jesus, or whatever you’d like to refer to it as. Jesus could be the teacher from the Course. He speaks in first person and clear that it was given by him. Thus, making this a pleasant type of spirituality, but it’s changing the way that people glance at the historical Jesus.

I’m happy to observe that nowadays any time you go into Unity Churches, otherwise you come over to my place, there’s a drawings and paintings of Jesus, and he’s laughing and smiling, which is the best way he actually was. He wasn’t some suffering, unhappy guy. He had a feeling of humor and the man was married to Mary Magdalene. He had normal relationships, and friends and they also partied when they wanted too. They’d visit a wedding celebration that could last 21 days because that is the way things were back then. I do believe you get a better check out what life was like in the period Jesus lived by reading the previous Testament, over you need to do reading the brand new Testament because it is exactly what it really was like. You read things such as Solomon and it is pretty racy stuff. There are plenty of sexual things mentioned. The stuff about being puritans and goody two shoes came after Jesus. It did not have almost anything to do with what life was like as he was walking around. All of that is made up from the church given that they wanted make up a faith and they also did.

What it’s all about of Jesus got completely lost and turned into its opposite, that is a message of suffering and sacrifice, that is certainly not what he concerned at all. He was about get rid of suffering and sacrifice. Probably the best illustration would be the fact he couldn’t feel any pain at the end of his life. As ACIM puts it, the guiltless mind cannot suffer, and Jesus’ mind have been completely healed through the Holy Spirit, so he’d no guilt in their mind, which resulted in he couldn’t suffer, which also meant that he couldn’t feel any pain. So this whole idea that somehow he suffered and sacrificed himself for sins is not regarding him. It’s a constructed theology by the apostle Paul. In reality, it’s Paul’s theology, that is the foundation of Christianity. It is not based on the teachings of Jesus.

Out of your tender you do have a Jesus who could forgive anybody, even if we were holding killing him, but nowadays there is a “Christians” who can’t forgive folks who suffer from done not them? You will find there’s contradiction here. It’s really a convoluted form of Jesus. I believe a primary reason my books, and ACIM have inked very well, and that we think is constantly, as the Course is going to be around for the thousand years, is really because at the conclusion of the day it’s wise. It’s actually a complete thought system. All of it fits together and it is according to love and forgiveness.

If you look at a number of the old Greek texts, right from the start of Christianity, they employed to say (in connection with early Christians), “you’ll know them by their love”. The first specification of the saying “repent” in Greek is approximately an alteration of mind. It’s not about cleaning your act upon the amount of the world. It is certainly at the degree of your brain resulting in a big change of mind. Which was the original idea, because they did get several of what Jesus was saying back then. ACIM ‘s all done with the a higher level mental performance, because this is the degree of cause, as well as the world is only the effect. I am not saying that you can not contain it, and enjoy it, but following the day it’s really a temporary experience.

It’s just what the Buddhist’s call impermanence, and also, since it’s impermanent and temporary, you cannot find any permanent satisfaction or happiness there. It is really easy to find permanent happiness in changing your physical appearance at the world though, which again means that the program says, “seek to never affect the world, seek rather to modify your mind concerning the world”. And when you do that you may be working with the level of cause instead of the effect, which can be extremely important.

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